September return, what are the rules?

Just announced - Scotland only. From new term (12th August) social distancing between pupils will not be required. However, "measures on hygiene and contact management that must be in place".
 
According to our schools risk assessment, and in line with government guidelines, our equipment will have to be washed and/or remain unused for 72hrs, so ASE video a bit of a red herring in retrospect..
Apologies, as still going to have to comply, against my reluctant judgement.
Limits number of possible practicals enormously, as I thought time to recycle equipment was going to be just 'as much as my hands can do' limit, rather than that plus 72hrs for unwashable equipment.
 
We have now had our meeting. Pupils in year group bubbles with no social distancing between pupils but a 2m "exclusion zone" around staff :rolleyes:. Desks/tables back into rows to get the numbers of kids in the rooms and keep the distance for staff available. All consumables distributed around school irrespective of whose budget paid for it (that caused the biggest upset from teachers who look after their stuff!!!). Teachers move around, kids stay put. There will be periods of unsupervision whist teachers move about.
No practical work to be done in the short term, with suggestions that this will not be before Christmas at the earliest. Labs will be used for general teaching so I have to move all "specialist" equipment out of the labs before kids return, which will now be on the INSET day when we return as I am TTO. I can see me having to check gas taps at the end of every lesson for damage!
No information about what support staff do if there are no practical lessons. During the return of Y10, I have been redeployed as a TA (not happy at all with that!). All a bit of a mess really...
 
I pointed the SMT to
PS082 - Using laboratories for non-science activities

and advised that they include training for the non-science teachers to use the labs in the INSET days.

No information about what support staff do if there are no practical lessons. During the return of Y10, I have been redeployed as a TA (not happy at all with that!). All a bit of a mess really...
for yr10 return we got some watching the one way system outside the toilets duties, it was borring but teachers were doing it as well.

We have 6th form in 2 labs so might get to do some pracs depending on guidance and CPAC reqirments.
 
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We'll have years 7-9 staying put in non-science rooms, so no practicals for them. Years 10-13 will be moving for specialist teaching ie science, so will have limited access to labs. We'll be filming resources for the lower school and figuring out what the upper school can do when they're in science.
 
Yep, did this, too. Was told that labs would be used for general teaching and to remove specialist equipment. HoD has said I have done my bit, and any damage will be on their heads now. Once I take everything out, there will only be the fixtures that need checking, ie gas taps and sockets. Our services are pretty minimal, no sinks near the kids etc., so I will just ensure the gas is isolated and the bench sockets, too.
Our biggest problem, if you can call it that, is increasing numbers but not increasing space. Other specialist areas like DT are not being used, but we are :(
 
Yep, did this, too. Was told that labs would be used for general teaching and to remove specialist equipment. HoD has said I have done my bit, and any damage will be on their heads now. Once I take everything out, there will only be the fixtures that need checking, ie gas taps and sockets. Our services are pretty minimal, no sinks near the kids etc., so I will just ensure the gas is isolated and the bench sockets, too.
Our biggest problem, if you can call it that, is increasing numbers but not increasing space. Other specialist areas like DT are not being used, but we are :(
We don't have stuff in the labs, unless in a locked cupboard, the electricity stop is on the same ring as the projector and teachers PC :(.
 
electricity stop is on the same ring as the projector and teachers PC
Oops, our bench sockets are separate to the teacher stuff, luckily. Wish we had locked cupboards, but the labs have been stripped back to being basically classrooms with a couple of sinks (!) and some central services on islands that would have been too expensive to remove fully. I think the school may have seriously considered theoretical science only under a previous regime!!!! Any cupboards I do have are doorless!
 
Looks like ours is business as usual apart from kids entering/leaving at staggered times & different gates. Staggered breaks too. Still using all rooms with all changeovers as usual. One way corridors. Can't see time to clean between classes.
 
We have now had our meeting. Pupils in year group bubbles with no social distancing between pupils but a 2m "exclusion zone" around staff :rolleyes:. Desks/tables back into rows to get the numbers of kids in the rooms and keep the distance for staff available. All consumables distributed around school irrespective of whose budget paid for it (that caused the biggest upset from teachers who look after their stuff!!!). Teachers move around, kids stay put. There will be periods of unsupervision whist teachers move about.
No practical work to be done in the short term, with suggestions that this will not be before Christmas at the earliest. Labs will be used for general teaching so I have to move all "specialist" equipment out of the labs before kids return, which will now be on the INSET day when we return as I am TTO. I can see me having to check gas taps at the end of every lesson for damage!
No information about what support staff do if there are no practical lessons. During the return of Y10, I have been redeployed as a TA (not happy at all with that!). All a bit of a mess really...
I posted the original rule post and since checked with our H&S department. Original government rules of 2m still applies and we have 6 labs. 1 that fits 4 students, 3 that fit 12 students and 2 that fit 8 students. Apparently students can't wear face coverings although not sure if this is just here in college because of the cost or the government advise. At present I am just sorting the general holiday stuff and doing a stock take etc. I don't think we have any practical going on until after half term and no one around to advise any different. It appears that even in a bubble social distancing should be adhered to. I am usually methodical and organized but at present the lack of information is totally confusing me.
 
We have ordered visors for the pupils (not many!) As we can't really get screens between each practical bench, that is what our head wanted! We can wash them after use, we got the SLS ones, I am feeling stressed as the advice is so mixed and I guess we are thinking its better to be safe than sorry! And it could all change in September but this doesn't give us enough time to plan.
 
It is all very confusing because basically the govt. have put the ball firmly back into the employer's court. Everyone seems to be reading it differently and doing different things. I have decided to not over think anything for the next 6 weeks, try to keep away from the numpties who think it is all over and the virus is gone, and see what September brings :rolleyes:
 
Our current plan, as I understand it, is all year groups (we have 9, 10, 11, & 6th form) are to be "bubbles". They will each have a different area within the school to gather in the morning and during breaks. Lessons will be in a.m. & p.m. blocks (e.g. 3hrs science). There will be staggered start & finishing times and breaks. Staff are to adhere to the 2m distancing.
As far as practicals are concerned no firm plans are in place as yet. The expectation is they will go ahead once the students have all returned (it will take into the 2nd week of term for all years to be in and settled), but how this will happen is to be decided and will depend on guidelines (from various places such as CLEAPSS, HSE etc) at the time.
Our plans may well be very different from other schools as we are very small with approximately 100 students per year group.
I haven't been in school since it was closed in March. I'm expecting my return to be an interesting experience, It's going to feel very weird.
 
Well our prep room is gonna be shared by a assistant head teacher! As there’s workspace down the other end.

Thrilled, can’t waito_O
 
Epidemiologist Dr Daniel Lopez-Acuna told the BBC the average age of cases could rise "because the transmission is going from the youngsters to the rest of the household, and certainly the elderly".

With regard to the widening rules allowing younger people not having to stay apart. I studied epidemiology for a very short period and could have come to more definitive approach than is currently offered.
 
Our student will be in bubbles and allocated a specific classroom. But the labs aren't included in this so can still be used for science. One in three science lessons will be in the labs - No class practicals in the autumn term but there will be teacher demos. I think i will be spending most of my time cleaning the labs between lessons!
I have ordered a pile of new safety specs, to replace those given to a local medical centre and to have plenty of spare. Also ordered a UV cabinet to sterilise them - but then read that these are not recommended by CLEAPPS!
 
Also ordered a UV cabinet to sterilise them - but then read that these are not recommended by CLEAPPS!
that's because they are not tested, polycarbonate blocks UV, so do they sterilise?

also UV can also make it degrade polycarbonate and make it brittle.
 
In my place we have been told to basically prepare for two scenarios, either full normality in september (so full summer checks as usual and prep for new term) or no individual or group practical to be done until at least halloween (to that end I have been finding and will be filming video demos).

A large reason for this is because our year groups are being grouped together to form a year wide 'bubble' instead of letting the whole school mix, and the current understanding is that Year 13 will be occupying most if not all of the science labs and will be taught all their subjects within it.
 
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