Inset days
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I'm term time +10 which is 5 insets + 5 more days. It all gets rather confusing when they start doing twilight insets that finish after the end of my work day, which I don't stay for, but I always do more than my specified number of holiday days anyway (and have done even before I was meant to do any !) so I figure it works out.
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Purple Cat
It's real Science not Rocket Science
I work inset days - usually prepping practicals or tackling the ever-expanding jobs list
Inset days are our 5 extra days, we used to be able to get on with things we wanted, but the new regime likes everyone to be involved in training where possible.
I've had more than one conversation with our ex business manager trying to persuade her that they really need to make support staff contracts clearer.
I worked INSET days unpaid for the first 2.5 years I was here. I didn't come in on the first one (the first day of my first term, not a good start !), because my contract said term time only and the head's PA confirmed this. I got thoroughly told off by the Head of Science and the senior tech the next day, so I dutifully worked all the rest of them until 2.5 years later just before Easter I received an email of 'start of term arrangements for support staff who don't work INSET days' which I queried, and discovered that I was never contracted to work them and hadn't been paid for them
Conversely, when I was offered the senior tech job and I asked the business manager if it would be possible to up the days to TT+10 instead of theTT+5 which my ex-senior had worked, she informed me that he had been TT+10 all along. But he had never worked the extra 5 days for all the 10+ years that he had been there !!!
Peter Dale
Dammit man! I'm a technician, not a magician!
The current HR manager doesn't seem to even have my contract or know where it is. That or she was fobbing me off. I asked for it a while back and haven't heard anything since.
Far as I know I'm on 39 weeks and that's it. I do come in for start of term inset days, because it gives me a headstart. Then I add it to my time in lieu. But they like to hold 2 inset days at the end of the summer term, after the kids have finished. Those, I do not go to. Ever.
Until they get off their arse and show me that my contract says different with +x days, I will continue this.
Far as I know I'm on 39 weeks and that's it. I do come in for start of term inset days, because it gives me a headstart. Then I add it to my time in lieu. But they like to hold 2 inset days at the end of the summer term, after the kids have finished. Those, I do not go to. Ever.
Until they get off their arse and show me that my contract says different with +x days, I will continue this.
Doesn't 39 weeks include INSET ? I thought it was 38 weeks of teaching per year
Yes, inset days normally count towards your extra days in my experience. At one school, I was TTO so didn't need to attend inset days at all. At other schools where I have been TT plus X, the inset days have always counted towards my extra days.
Peter Dale
Dammit man! I'm a technician, not a magician!
*shrug*
I've heard both, but no one has ever outright told me either way, which is why I wanted to see my contract in the first place, to clear it up. So until someone tells me otherwise, I'll keep doing what I'm doing.
EDIT: I just counted all of the weeks and insets for this academic year, and I'm counting 39 weeks of teaching, less a day for the January inset. All other INSETS are in addition to this. If we subtract the various bank holidays within term time, that might account for the difference.
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They lost all the staff files here, everyone needed new contracts etc.
You can be
Term time only
Term time plus inset
etc
here they are TT + INSET, so they have to do community hours like the teachers, as we have an extra 3 days october 1/2 term covered by twilight insets insets, then 5 hours of after school activities that are not directed time.
I'm in the same position. My contact is 'TTO +10 days'. I've been assuming the inset days are part of term time so I've not been including them in my 10 additional days.
At least two of our inset days are always disaggregated so the teachers don't work them. I think it's somewhat ironic that teachers don't have to work on teacher training days but non-teachers do.
Also the teachers have 2 hours of CPD every third Thursday between 3:15pm and 5:15pm which means they don't have to work the disaggregated inset days, except the CPD more often than not only last 30 minutes yet they still get to bank the full 2 hours to go towards the inset day. Plus they would be in school during that time anyway so it's not like they're doing overtime!
At least two of our inset days are always disaggregated so the teachers don't work them. I think it's somewhat ironic that teachers don't have to work on teacher training days but non-teachers do.
Also the teachers have 2 hours of CPD every third Thursday between 3:15pm and 5:15pm which means they don't have to work the disaggregated inset days, except the CPD more often than not only last 30 minutes yet they still get to bank the full 2 hours to go towards the inset day. Plus they would be in school during that time anyway so it's not like they're doing overtime!
The DfE mandates schools hold 190 teaching days defined as days students are in school
That works out as 38 lots of 5 days
I work TTO, +10 days, I'm happy to lose a few days for inset, we have shorter terms than state schools. I come in later and finish a little earlier, negotiated with my HoD.