Corona Corona...

Same here
We had 14 outstanding year 13 practicals last week - we've done 7 so far this week with 2 more tomorrow
We were wondering what was going on recently, all practicals been left until now- nearly 6 months into school year!
Thing is, all schools across country will be in same position.
 
Couple of our teachers said no point in closing schools, doesn't stop spread, blah blah. I was bit rude ( why change habit of a lifetime eh?) & said I'd rather trust WHO & Chief Medical Officer than someone who has degree in very narrow field or a 3rd in Botany...
Everyone's an expert :rolleyes:

I'm not convinced it'll help a huge amount to be honest, but I guess every little bit helps. Most of the students here don't think corona virus is an issue so they'll all just meet up in groups anyway. Round here they wander the town in packs going in and out of Tesco's and Co-op all day which would then make it harder to work out who they may have come into contact with. At least if they're at school its possible to work that out.
 

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Couple of our teachers said no point in closing schools, doesn't stop spread, blah blah. I was bit rude ( why change habit of a lifetime eh?) & said I'd rather trust WHO & Chief Medical Officer than someone who has degree in very narrow field or a 3rd in Botany...
Everyone's an expert :rolleyes:

I just had a similar exchange with a teaching assistant. She said we shouldn't shut schools because it will be awkward for parents who work and could affect people paying their mortgage. I was rather blunt and said I'd rather inconvenience a few parents and have an extra year payment on my mortgage than have more dead people because the virus got spread. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and make personal sacrifices to protect the wider population.
 
I just had a similar exchange with a teaching assistant. She said we shouldn't shut schools because it will be awkward for parents who work and could affect people paying their mortgage. I was rather blunt and said I'd rather inconvenience a few parents and have an extra year payment on my mortgage than have more dead people because the virus got spread. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and make personal sacrifices to protect the wider population.
Yes, we have a lot of people saying if we have to stay home then they will go out anyway because they will be bored. Ye Gods.
 
Yes, we have a lot of people saying if we have to stay home then they will go out anyway because they will be bored. Ye Gods.
Scotland have banned gathering of more than 500.

I think it's just a matter of time at this point

Yes I agree. Anyway I don't think that shutting schools will make much difference as this virus will be around at least the end of the year so contaminations will go on everywhere.:)
 

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Yes I agree. Anyway I don't think that shutting schools will make much difference as this virus will be around at least the end of the year so contaminations will go on everywhere.:)

Yes that is true but the reason they go in to the 'delay' phase is that it is much easier for the health service to deal with cases is they come in in a slower more spread fashion. You get a much higher death rate when services are overwhelmed by initial huge spikes in cases when viruses are left to spread indiscriminately..
 
I just had a similar exchange with a teaching assistant. She said we shouldn't shut schools because it will be awkward for parents who work and could affect people paying their mortgage. I was rather blunt and said I'd rather inconvenience a few parents and have an extra year payment on my mortgage than have more dead people because the virus got spread. Sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture and make personal sacrifices to protect the wider population.

This is why I've said its a no-win situation, we're stuffed either way.
The bigger picture is that if this does too much damage to the economy we end up with many deaths anyway, they're just be later in the year. 60% of employment in the UK comes from small and medium sized businesses. If we go into lock-down many of those won't survive which will create a surge in unemployment and plunge more people into poverty. There will be a bigger strain on the health service and crime will likely increase putting more pressure on the police.
That means more people on benefits and more people struggling to put food on the table or pay their bills. Higher unemployment means less disposable income so then the companies that survived this are at risk further down the line as people aren't spending potentially adding more to the unemployment figures.
There will be a significant impact on the economy, there's no doubt about that, but the government has to balance a fine line here between what damage we can cope with now versus the damage that will occur later.
 
Numbers at the moment seem to indicate that Covid-19 (@4%) is about twice as fatal as Spanish flu (@2%) was in 1918. That caused tens of millions of deaths but was possibly more transmissable than Covid-19.

There needs to be some system of slowing transmission of the virus and if it isn't done soon, it will impact rather badly on exam season. For the majority of institutions (never mind the career impact on students) that will have a substantial adverse impact on funding.

It's going to be an interesting year.
 
Today's email
Possible infection college stays open
Confirmed infection college does a risk assessment
Until then carry on
 
I wonder how many NHS staff would have to stay at home if schools closed.
I already know of one that would have no option but to stay home - she's a single parent. I know of several partners where both work in the NHS and have trouble balancing shifts at the best of times too - some in specialisms that will be in high demand if people need ICU care. Must be a hard decision to make balancing the likelihood of transmission against disruption caused.
 
We have just received an email from one of our local suppliers with the WHO recipe for making hand rub as well as the codes to buy the chemicals from them? Do we know how we would stand following this guide following the guidance from CLEAPSS not to make our own hand rub?
 

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Follow CLEAPSS. Talk about some firms profiteering on misery and hysteria, disgraceful...…..they would be on my "NEVER BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE AGAIN !!" list. And I would bet the prices are higher than they would normally be...…..
 
Follow CLEAPSS. Talk about some firms profiteering on misery and hysteria, disgraceful...…..they would be on my "NEVER BUY FROM THESE PEOPLE AGAIN !!" list. And I would bet the prices are higher than they would normally be...…..

Not sure the prices will be any higher than normal, they certainly seem to be a good company for pricing generally. At their prices it appears you get 1 Ltr of hand rub for £9.12. Not sure how that compares to current pricing of alcohol hand rub in the current climate. I'd be concerned if the WHO were suggesting folks make a hand rub that will cause health concerns. I will stick with CLEAPSS advice however.
 

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Numbers at the moment seem to indicate that Covid-19 (@4%) is about twice as fatal as Spanish flu (@2%) was in 1918. That caused tens of millions of deaths but was possibly more transmissable than Covid-19.

There needs to be some system of slowing transmission of the virus and if it isn't done soon, it will impact rather badly on exam season. For the majority of institutions (never mind the career impact on students) that will have a substantial adverse impact on funding.

It's going to be an interesting year.
I may be wrong, but Spanish flu was more of a concern to younger age groups, this one appears to mostly affect the elderly or those with poor respiratory health or low immunity. Close schools while parents still have to work, and you get grandparents looking after the children, without the children themselves (if in otherwise good health) being particularly at risk. Its less about generally spreading it around, and more about delaying the impact on those particularly at risk ( and therefore particularly at risk of needing more intensive NHS care...
 
Could someone please tell me how to convert hydrogen peroxide 20vol to 3% (ref. WHO recipe for hand sanitiser - see: https://www.who.int/gpsc/5may/Guide_to_Local_Production.pdf ) I used to have a brain........

Also - has anyone tried mixing propan-2-ol with aloe vera? A colleague tells me that the AV becomes a mass like poached egg!!

Thanks,

Heather
To make 100 mL

15 mL of your 20 vol Peroxide and 85 mL distilled/deionised water. Covid-19 has been shown t0 be rapidly deactivated in 0.5% Peroxide. If your 20 vol Peroxide has been standing for some time it's likely to be less than a 20 vol stock.:)
 
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