What are YOU doing to prepare for practicals (potentially) in September?

Afternoon all,

My HoD asked me to make a draft procedure with regards to teachers ordering practicals, and one of the things she mentions was the possibility of ordering practicals two weeks in advance (yes I have managed to whip the teachers to give one week's notice!).

As inevitably there will be more time required for practical prep, cleaning etc, we will also be thinking about how soon different teachers can do the same practical on a day (if equipment is limited).

Just curious to see what you are all putting in place in addition to your regular requirements when regarding practicals.

Many thanks :)
 
I was on the ase webinar yesterday and their thoughts on practicals was that the science team would have to get together and decide between them who would do what, when and where. Taking into consideration the amount of time to set up, take away disinfect ect. Teachers wont be able to request like they used to and probably could only do a couple a day. Also if you have more then one tech, is your prep room big enough to have them all in there social distancing? Could be you end up having a reduced service factor. They will not be able to do the same practicals they did before lockdown. It was suggested that teachers work out what they want their end result to be and then work backwards finding a suitable practical.
 
I was on the ase webinar yesterday and their thoughts on practicals was that the science team would have to get together and decide between them who would do what, when and where. Taking into consideration the amount of time to set up, take away disinfect ect. Teachers wont be able to request like they used to and probably could only do a couple a day. Also if you have more then one tech, is your prep room big enough to have them all in there social distancing? Could be you end up having a reduced service factor. They will not be able to do the same practicals they did before lockdown. It was suggested that teachers work out what they want their end result to be and then work backwards finding a suitable practical.
One of the teachers watched that webinar with me, and she interpreted it as that there is possibility to do all practicals. Obviously whether the technician can do this/have time for this will vary.
 
I'm not in school at the moment but I would hope and expect this to be a discussion by the entire department. It's uncharted territory and more ideas the better I would think. A system thrashed out by all concerned is much less likely to cause friction than one imposed. It's going to be hard enough for everyone for a while so more harmony the better methinks :).
 
I was also watching that webinar yesterday. There is a possibility to do all practicals (apart from some A level Chemistry, due to risk associated) but what I took away from it was that teachers and techs need to co-operate with each other to find a new way of working. They also stressed that the main limiting factor were the technicians, for the reasons Kathryn stated above.
It is interesting how the teachers and techs interpreted it differently.
 
Afternoon all,

My HoD asked me to make a draft procedure with regards to teachers ordering practicals, and one of the things she mentions was the possibility of ordering practicals two weeks in advance (yes I have managed to whip the teachers to give one week's notice!).

As inevitably there will be more time required for practical prep, cleaning etc, we will also be thinking about how soon different teachers can do the same practical on a day (if equipment is limited).

Just curious to see what you are all putting in place in addition to your regular requirements when regarding practicals.

Many thanks :)
It will be dependent on the social distance regulations at that time. For example how close will a Teacher be able to get to a student when the said student requires how a calculation is performed?
 
My HoD told me this week, that it will be unlikely that we will be doing practical when school opens in September and that we will have to wait and see how everything goes as to when she will start letting some happen.
 

karen b

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Senior tech has asked to be involved in the discussions. It’s a bit tricky as we have been furloughed so any conversations of this type should wait until we are taken off furlough.
 
Waiting to find out what all Students returning to school means.
Likewise. I've been told no practicals until further notice. We are lucky in the respect we have a couple of labs vacant, so potentially I could set up a practical in an empty lab, the students carry it out, leave - and I go in to clear/set up another. However, nothing has been decided, my HOD has asked my opinion and is keeping me informed.
 
Likewise. I've been told no practicals until further notice. We are lucky in the respect we have a couple of labs vacant, so potentially I could set up a practical in an empty lab, the students carry it out, leave - and I go in to clear/set up another. However, nothing has been decided, my HOD has asked my opinion and is keeping me informed.
Same here. No practicals until further notice.
 
We are doing some practicals next week with bubbles of 6/7 kids. Resistance in a wire/ rates of reaction/ sampling with quadrats. Feel nervous now coz no one else seems to be.
 
Asked and pointed out the CLEAPSS guidance. Rebuffed.
the advice comes from the HSE, you can use section 44.

If you don’t think that risks are being managed then you can use section 44 of the 1996 Act but it is best to take legal advice before you do so and to then inform your employer in writing of your decision and the basis of it.
Join a union if you are not in one.
 
Fortunately, the opposite of Fran. Asked, showed the guidance, now in the empty labs attempting to get them ready to run by September. We're presently looking at a system of practical days, wherebye students learn from home for theory and then come in every so often to do their practicals, with everything cleaned down and then set up for the next lot in between. We'd also have two sets of timetables, depending on the strength of lockdown measures at any given time. We have a lot more flexibility as a college, though.
 
I forwarded the CLEAPSS guidance to my department and the Head. Head thanked me, but didn't/hasn't said anything further. Teachers took one look at the guidance and decided it was too difficult to do most practicals under the guidance and 2m distancing so they are themselves not willing to do much in September, largely because of the extra work it would give me to follow it as a lone tech. I am trying to get things done to make life easier when we do get back in Sept., but I am now banned from school except when I am being used as a TA for y10! Apparently we have a limit on the number of people allowed in school on any one day, and with Y10 plus keyworker/EHCP children, we are "full"!!!!
 
I forwarded the CLEAPSS guidance to my department and the Head. Head thanked me, but didn't/hasn't said anything further.
That sounds familiar. Our labs are in the staff zone, so no pracs, I have offered a demo for the yr 12 physics as it's just free fall.
 
the advice comes from the HSE, you can use section 44.



Join a union if you are not in one.
It's not that I'm worried about safety, it's that I don't think HoD realises how much it could take to set up for a new way of doing practicals if the guidance remains as it is.

I asked whether he wanted me to start preparing. He seemed to think it wasn't worth starting to prepare when we still don't know what for. What is so very odd about this is that he has made all the teachers prepare SoW on the assumption that they will be doing a mixture of live online teaching (from in school) and real live human teaching. He also said that the KS4 kids would be devoting all their "physically in school" time to the required pracs. I don't know what they think KS3s are going to be doing. ( We don't have a sixth form).

Our stupid modern school has only 2 fully equipped labs and 3 makeshift ones for 900+ pupils . Constant timetable juggling and migration of classes has always been needed to enable pracs to take place and, of course, I am often under siege to allow pracs outside of labs. HoD always fully backs me on this and he is very nice. BUT he is a physics specialist so doesn't fully appreciate how logistically complicated a big chem prac can be even in normal times in a decently equipped lab.

I now feel like a prophet of doom pecking his head with "trivialities", when he has important stuff to attend to. I don't think I'm getting anywhere so I'm afraid I will just have to wait until September and they tell me what they want to do and we'll have to see whether it's possible.
 
It's not that I'm worried about safety, it's that I don't think HoD realises how much it could take to set up for a new way of doing practicals if the guidance remains as it is.

I asked whether he wanted me to start preparing. He seemed to think it wasn't worth starting to prepare when we still don't know what for. What is so very odd about this is that he has made all the teachers prepare SoW on the assumption that they will be doing a mixture of live online teaching (from in school) and real live human teaching. He also said that the KS4 kids would be devoting all their "physically in school" time to the required pracs. I don't know what they think KS3s are going to be doing. ( We don't have a sixth form).

Our stupid modern school has only 2 fully equipped labs and 3 makeshift ones for 900+ pupils . Constant timetable juggling and migration of classes has always been needed to enable pracs to take place and, of course, I am often under siege to allow pracs outside of labs. HoD always fully backs me on this and he is very nice. BUT he is a physics specialist so doesn't fully appreciate how logistically complicated a big chem prac can be even in normal times in a decently equipped lab.

I now feel like a prophet of doom pecking his head with "trivialities", when he has important stuff to attend to. I don't think I'm getting anywhere so I'm afraid I will just have to wait until September and they tell me what they want to do and we'll have to see whether it's possible.
 
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